The5%ers Futures: Rules, Payouts and If Copiers Are Allowed

The5%ers spent ten years as a forex firm. Its futures arm is much newer, and the rulebook reads differently enough that traders arriving from the CFD side get caught out.

Two answers matter more than the rest. Copiers are allowed, but inside a box far smaller than most people assume. And the automation most traders actually want is banned outright, for a reason that has nothing to do with the rules page.

This guide covers every number as it stood on September 21, 2026, then gets to the part that decides whether any of it applies to you.

Key Takeaways

• Copying is capped at $75,000 combined and works only on 25K and 50K accounts.
• You may copy your own trades between your own accounts. Nothing else.
• The5%ers calls algorithmic trading “strictly forbidden” and bans traders who use it.
• BlackArrow is the only supported platform, so no TradingView bridge can connect.
• The split is 80/20 and stays there, with payout caps from $1,250 to $4,500.

The5%ers Futures is the futures program run by The5%ers, an Israel-based proprietary trading firm founded in 2016. You buy a one-step evaluation, hit a profit target without breaching an end-of-day drawdown, and trade a simulated funded account for a share of the profit.

Editorial note: PickMyTrade isn’t affiliated with The5%ers. We pulled every rule, price and cap below from The5%ers’ own futures page and its full futures FAQ library on September 21, 2026.

Does The5%ers actually run a futures program?

Yes, and it now spans four account sizes rather than the two most review sites still list. The5%ers Futures sells $25K, $50K, $100K and $150K evaluations across a Day Trade plan and a Swing plan, priced from $59 to $219 as a single upfront fee. There are no monthly charges and no activation fee.

So what separates the two plans? Only one thing, and it’s whether a position may stay open past the daily close. Day Trade accounts must be flat before the daily maintenance break. Swing accounts may carry a reduced position through it. That’s unusual in futures prop trading, and it’s one of the firm’s three headline features.

We analyzed four of the review sites currently ranking for this firm and compared them line by line against the live pages. All four were stale. They listed only the 25K and 50K sizes and quoted a $70 activation fee that no longer exists. They also described a 30% consistency rule that’s now 40%, and put maximum allocation at $615K against the $500K the firm actually publishes.

That gap matters because the Swing price cuts are permanent, not a seasonal promotion. The5%ers dropped the 25K Swing from $120 to $69 and the 50K from $240 to $120, then added the 100K and 150K Swing sizes as new products. Buying from an outdated comparison table means overpaying or picking a size that didn’t exist last quarter.

Both plans share identical risk rules, set out in the next section. On either plan, the evaluation fee comes back in full once you take a third payout.

What are the rules on The5%ers futures accounts?

Four numbers carry the account: a 6% evaluation target, a 4% funded target, a 4% maximum loss limit measured end of day, and a 40% consistency ceiling on any single position. Contract limits run from 2 minis on the $25K up to 12 minis on the $150K. News trading is allowed, and there’s no minimum profitable days requirement.

End-of-day drawdown means your loss limit is measured against your balance at the close, not tick by tick during the session. An open position that dips 5% and recovers before the bell doesn’t breach anything. The same dip on a trailing intraday model would have ended the account.

The four numbers above hold on every size. So where’s the trap? It sits in the rows that change as the account grows.

The $100K and $150K accounts carry a 2.5% daily drawdown that the smaller sizes don’t have. Breach it and the account is gone. Termination is permanent, not a suspension until the next session. Consider a trader who moves up from a $50K to a new $100K account after a strong quarter. They’ve just walked into a daily rule they never had to think about before.

Three more rules quietly end accounts. Positions must be flat at least ten minutes before the close, and missing that means termination, not a warning. You can’t hold any position over a weekend, and The5%ers closes any evaluation that goes fourteen calendar days without a trade.

On the closing time, The5%ers contradicts itself across three of its own pages. The futures landing page says 4:50 PM ET. Its market hours FAQ says 4:50 PM CT, while the overnight holding FAQ says 4:50 PM CET. Three different moments, and an hour separates the first two. We’d treat 4:50 PM CT as the operative one, because that page also gives the full session schedule. Either way, flatten well before all three.

The5%ers caps total allocation at $500,000 per trader, across every account you hold. Within that, you may buy at most one $150K, two $100K, or five accounts combined across the $25K and $50K sizes.

When does the consistency rule block a payout?

The 40% rule is gentler than it reads. No single trade may account for more than 40% of your total profit when you request a payout or a scale-up. Break it and nothing fails. You simply keep trading until the rest of your profit catches up.

How much more do you need to earn? The arithmetic is one division. Take your best trade and divide by 0.40, and that’s the total profit you need before the request clears.

A $2,000 winner needs $5,000 of total profit behind it. If you’re sitting at $2,900, that one trade is 69% of the pile and the payout button stays dark until you’ve added roughly $2,100 more. On a 50K evaluation with a $3,000 target, a single $1,600 trade pushes your real target to $4,000.

Two details on The5%ers’ own consistency page are worth knowing first. It prints 0.39 as the divisor on one line, then uses 0.40 in the example beneath it. It also says your total profit must be “below” the figure it just calculated, though every example needs it above. We read it twice to be sure. Use 0.40, and treat the requirement as a floor.

There’s a subtler wrinkle in how the dashboard shows the number. The firm calculates consistency P&L on accumulated profitable trades only, so that figure can sit well above the net profit you actually banked that day. Win $2,000 and lose $800, and your net is $1,200 while consistency reads $2,000. Traders who scalp in and out see the widest gap between those two numbers.

Does the rule cap what you can make in a day? No. You can earn any amount in one session, because the rule governs only the moment you ask for money out. That’s why it bites hardest on accounts that passed fast. The5%ers allows passing the evaluation in a single day, so the two rules collide: pass on one big trade and you’ll wait to be paid.

Our prop firm consistency rule explainer compares the 40% figure with Apex and Topstep.

How much do The5%ers futures payouts pay?

The split is 80/20 in your favor and stays 80/20 forever, with no scaling ladder to climb. Payouts run on a fourteen-day cycle. To request one you need a funded account that’s at least fourteen days old and 4% or more in profit measured from its starting balance.

Every withdrawal has a ceiling. The $25K account pays a flat $1,250 no matter how much sits in it, while the $50K through $150K accounts cap each request at 3% of the initial balance. That’s $1,500, $3,000 and $4,500 respectively.

Watch the flat cap on the smallest account. At $1,250 every two weeks, a $25K trader with a good month leaves profit parked in the account, where it sits exposed to the same 4% drawdown as everything else. The 3% rule on larger sizes at least scales with the account.

Payment comes through Rise, cryptocurrency or bank transfer, and all three carry a 3.5% commission. For example, a $3,000 request arrives as $2,895. Hub Credits are the only zero-fee option, and they can’t be withdrawn at all. They buy more evaluations and nothing else. Price that 3.5% in before you compare this firm’s split against a 90% competitor.

What works in your favor here? Two things. Your drawdown limit resets to 4% below your new balance after every withdrawal, so each payout hands back a fresh buffer. And The5%ers refunds the evaluation fee in full when your third payout lands. A $150K Swing trader gets $219 back.

One caution on the withdrawal requirements: the firm’s own page introduces the list as “all four conditions” and then prints three. We found no fourth anywhere else in the FAQ library, so treat the three as complete and ask support if a request stalls.

Are trade copiers allowed on The5%ers futures?

Yes, with three conditions attached, and each one rules out a common setup. The5%ers permits copying only on 25K and 50K accounts, only up to $75,000 of combined size, and only between accounts you own using trades you placed yourself. Its wording leaves no room: you can’t copy another trader, and you can’t let anyone copy you.

A trade copier is software that mirrors a fill from one account into others, so a single entry becomes several positions at once. It’s how funded traders scale without watching four screens. The5%ers allows that pattern, then draws the box tightly enough that most scaling plans don’t fit.

Work through what the $75,000 cap actually permits. Three $25K accounts reach exactly $75,000 and qualify, and a $50K paired with a $25K lands on the same figure. Two $50K accounts total $100,000 and fall outside, and the rule shuts out a $100K account on size alone.

Why does that last point matter so much? Because size is its own test, separate from the dollar cap. The rule names 25K and 50K accounts specifically, so a $100K or $150K account sits outside the copying permission entirely. The $75,000 cap never comes into it.

Do the purchase limits and the copy cap line up? They don’t. You may own five accounts across the 25K and 50K sizes, yet five 25K accounts add up to $125,000. So the firm lets you buy more accounts than it lets you copy across.

How to handle The5%ers’ contradictory copy rules

Get the permission in writing, because two of The5%ers’ own pages give opposite answers. The futures FAQ allows copying up to $75,000 on 25K and 50K accounts. The general prohibited-practices page lists “direct copy trading between accounts” as banned, with termination and forfeited profits as the penalty.

We ran a side-by-side check of both pages on September 21. Our reading is that someone wrote the prohibited-practices page for the forex side and never updated it for futures, yet both pages are live at once. Which one will the firm enforce? It doesn’t say.

A dated support reply settles it. Name your account numbers and sizes, ask if you may copy between them, and keep the reply before connecting anything. We give the same advice for every firm whose documentation disagrees with itself. How prop firms detect copy trading explains what the risk desk sees when it looks at correlated fills.

Why no TradingView bot can trade The5%ers futures accounts

Because The5%ers Futures runs on one platform, and that platform is BlackArrow. Its FAQ is unambiguous: BlackArrow is currently the only trading platform supported. There’s no Tradovate, no Rithmic, no NinjaTrader, no ProjectX and no TradingView integration to route an alert through.

We ran both of our own supported-firm lists through a search for BlackArrow and for The5%ers. Neither appears. PickMyTrade routes TradingView alerts into Tradovate, Rithmic, ProjectX, TradeLocker and Interactive Brokers, and BlackArrow isn’t among the connections we offer. So the honest answer to “can I automate The5%ers with PickMyTrade” is no, and it isn’t close.

The platform limit would be enough on its own. The rule underneath it is firmer still.

Under Trading Style Restrictions, The5%ers states that high-frequency trading, algorithmic trading and hedging are not supported, and says it will remove any trader found using them. Its FAQ repeats the point in stronger terms, calling the practices strictly forbidden and promising a ban from all programs.

Read that against the copier permission and a line appears. Algorithmic trading means a program deciding when to enter and exit. A copier doesn’t decide anything. It duplicates a decision you already made by hand, which is why one is permitted and the other isn’t. The moment a TradingView strategy generates the entry, you’ve crossed from the first category into the second.

Here too the firm’s pages disagree on scope. Its general-rules FAQ lists prohibited practices as only “arbitrage and high-frequency trades lasting only a few seconds or less.” That’s a far narrower ban than the landing page’s blanket restriction on algorithmic trading. The narrower version would leave room for a slow, rule-based system. The broader one doesn’t. When two rules conflict, assume the stricter one applies, because that’s the one the risk desk will quote back.

Which futures firms let you automate instead?

Plenty, and they’re the ones built on platforms an alert can actually reach. Firms running Tradovate, Rithmic or ProjectX expose an order path that a webhook can drive, and several of them permit bots in writing rather than tolerating them quietly. That combination of open platform and explicit permission is what The5%ers Futures lacks.

Before you buy anywhere, check these four things in order:

• Platform. Confirm the firm runs Tradovate, Rithmic, ProjectX or TradeLocker, because a closed proprietary platform ends the conversation.
• Written permission. Find the sentence that allows automated or algorithmic entries, and screenshot it with the date.
• Copier scope. Check the account-size limits and the combined cap, which are usually stricter than the purchase limits.
• Drawdown model. End-of-day and intraday trailing drawdowns demand different bot logic, and the wrong one fails accounts fast.

Our firm-by-firm tables do that legwork. The prop firms that allow trade copiers table covers copier scope, and the firms that actually allow EAs, bots and algos list covers the automation question directly. For firms whose rules we’ve dug through the same way as this one, see Blue Guardian, Funded Futures Family and OneUp Trader.

Where a firm does allow it, PickMyTrade turns a TradingView alert into a live order in roughly 200 milliseconds, with no code. It can also fan one alert across several funded accounts at once. The supported prop firms list shows which firms are connected today, and pricing starts at $50 a month per broker connection. The5%ers isn’t on that list, and until BlackArrow opens an order API it won’t be.

So is The5%ers worth it? If you trade by hand and want overnight futures exposure, the Swing plan is genuinely unusual and the 80/20 split never degrades. If your edge lives in a script, this is the wrong firm, and no amount of careful setup changes that.

Frequently Asked Questions

So should you trade The5%ers futures?

The5%ers Futures is a well-priced manual trading program wearing a rulebook that’s still catching up with itself. The numbers are competitive: a fixed 80/20 split, a refundable fee, end-of-day drawdown instead of intraday trailing, and a Swing plan that lets futures positions breathe overnight.

The copier answer is yes, narrowly. Two or three small accounts, your own trades only, $75,000 combined and not a dollar more.

The automation answer is no, twice over. BlackArrow accepts no external order flow, and the firm’s own rules ban algorithmic trading outright. If that’s your plan, spend the $59 somewhere your bot can actually place the trade. And read the firm’s pages yourself before you commit, because at least four of them disagree right now. Questions about connecting a supported firm? Get in touch, or read more about how we test these setups.

Disclaimer:
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